What is a Sable Cocker?
A sable cocker looks like ASCOB cocker which rolled soot or ashes. It appears to have black tipped hairs. But actually the black hairs are intermingled with the other colored hairs. You can follow a black hair to the root, it is black, not a variegated strand (on a brown sable, the hair is brown to the root). Sables usually have dark ear feathers and appear to have smudged eyeliner on their face.
BLACK SABLE: Genetically, this is a BLACK dog with Tan Points (SABLEING) that have spread underneath its coat.. It will look like an ASCOB dog with a black overlay, black nose and black pads. This is why the color is confusing to people. It looks like a buff dog with a black overlay when it is really a black dog with a tan underlay. Looks the same but is genetically very different. The puppy may be born BLACK, or Black/tan, or sable. If born black, tan points will appear and begin to spread underneath the black. Whatever color the tan points are is the primary color you will see when it matures. If the tan points are red, you will see a red (MAHOGANY) dog with black overlay. If the tan points are light cream, you will see a light buff dog with black overlay. If the dog has very few to no black hairs visible, it is called a clear sable. You would have to know the dog’s genotype to identify it.
BROWN SABLE: A brown sable is not a brown dog with a brown or black overlay. It is a BROWN dog whose Tan points (because of the sable gene) have spread underneath the brown coat. What you see is an ASCOB dog with a Brown overlay, brown nose and brown pads. The dog will be the color of the tan points he carries with a brown overlay. If he has a lot of overlay he may look like a brown dog at first, until you see the buff underneath. If it has very little overlay, it is called a CLEAR BROWN SABLE. What you will see with your eye is a BUFF dog.
Sable puppies may be born black, or black/tan, or sable and add white to the partis. The brown sable may be born brown, brown/tan or brown sable, brown parti or brown tri-color. If born black (or brown), tan points will develop and begin to spread underneath the black. Whatever the color of the tan points is the color you will see when it matures. If the tan points are a light cream, you will see light buff dog with a black overlay. If the tan points are red, you will see a mahogany with a black overlay, etc.
(puppy pic is Can CH.Shadyhill's Harry Potter, bred/owned by J.DeWolfe; Canada)
1. “E”= Whether to make it or not (extension)
Black= (A) E Buff= ee
2. “A”= (agouti) Where do we put it? (PATTERN)
Black = (E) A Sable = (E) ay Blk/tan = (E) at at
Aw refers to wolf sable not seen in cockers but in Huskies, Malamutes etc. In most breeds, fawn refers to ay yellows. Cocker reds may be either ayay (clear sable red) or ee. If the whiskers are black, the dog is ayay. If straw or cream colored, the dog is ee. Basenjis are clear red sable—ayay.
3. “B” = What color do we make it? (black/brown)
Black=(AE)B Brown= (AE)bb
4. “D” = and do we dilute it? (the dark pigment)
Blue = (AE)B dd Brown= (AE)bbdd
Merle is a patchy dilution gene.
5. “C” = Should we dilute the light pigment? (Color to no color-albino series)
Red= C Cream=C ch Silver= C e Almost Albino= Ce Ce
6. “S” = How much of the body should we cover? (solid/ not solid, both light and dark pigment)
Black= (AE)S Parti little white (AE)si si p=parti (AE)sp sp (AE) sw sw
Small s = spotting, i= irish spotting, p = piebald, w = extreme white piebald or without color.
Are there sable and tan dogs?
Ay is incompletely dominant to At, which may explain why some sable dogs LOOK like they have tan points, or a tan mask. Some call these ‘tan points’ because it looks like it phenotypically. An Ay At (sable/tan points) dog is usually darker, having more black hairs overall than ayay (sable/sable) dog.
How many generations does the gene stay active and does it ever go away? What do you do if you do not want the gene in your lines?
The gene will never go away. As Francis Greer said, “Genes don’t go away, they hide.” If you do not want a sable to ever pop up in your line, breed tan points to tan points. There are no sable genes in a tan pointed dog.
What about all the variations of sable?
There are no variations of sable. There is only the amount of sabling, like the amount of ticking, or the amount of roaning, or the amount of black on a parti-color, or the amount of tan on a black and tan.
A serious breeder is not a ‘color’ breeder. What happens when breeders choose color first?
Bologna! Everyone is a color breeder. Some kennels only breed ASCOBS, some only Reds, some only Silver buffs. Some only breed Blacks and Blk/tans. Some only breed parti-colors.Some kennels only breed brown. Even if you are one of the few kennels that breed all varieties of cockers, you would be one of the fewer still if you crossed color varieties. Because if we do not think about the color we are breeding, we may end up with mismarks, and we then are truly adding to the pet population.
What would the breed gain, or lose, by adding another color?
A color gained (or regained). Nothing lost. Did we lose by adding brown to the show-ring? Did we lose by adding black and tan? Did a color change your breeding program?
For those unfamiliar with sables... sable is recognized and registered by the AKC (American Spaniel Club), however at this time, it is not an accepted color by the ASC (American Spaniel Club).First Sable/White Champion in History; CH.Artistry's Soot N Cinders Bred by Artistry Cockers
|Birchwood Nathaniel Nestle (brown)|
|Sire: Kingspoint Mahogany Man (solid sable)|
|Connie’s Ginger Buffy|
|CH Artistry’s Soot N Cinders|
|Ch Artistry’s Abstract Patterns CD (r/w)|
|Dam: Artistry’s Mythical Creation (tri)|
|Artistry’s Curious Design CD (b/w)|
|Ch Wyndsong’s Fancy Pants
Ch Rohde’s Sable And Sass
Ch Barjohn’s Mocha Man
Hi Hopes Sable And White Delite CDX
Ch Legend I’m A Ten
Ch Legend Dudley Do right
Ch Three Crown’s Thrills N’ Chills
Ch Trojan Charcoal Sketch
Ch Karavan’s Trojan In Calico
Ch Pineshadows Kama Kid
Ch Pinshadows Sunshine Jazz
|Ch Three Crown’s Alexis C|
Ch Lorihil Lifesaver
Ch Lorihil Cinderfella
Ch Charisma’s Chasin Rainbows
Ch Samurai’s Classic Gold CD
Ch Samurai’s Dust Devil
Chatosa’s Luck Dragon CD
Lorli Rib tucker CD
Ch Schiely’s Trifecta
Ch Schiely’s Silk N Sable
In Irene Schlintz’ list of Top Producers from March 1965 through December 1988, Soot N Cinders was a Top Producing Parti-Color with 19 champions out of 12 bitches in 1985.